Noel Gallagher on The Smiths

iluvmanu123 Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - What do you expect him to speak like? He's a Mancunian, do you expect him to speak like a Cockney? He speaks like a lot of English people.

Ordsall66 Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - He talks a lot of sense, for a city fan.

randomcheesecake555 Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - suck a dick

ShaunChapman1992 Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - Why How Us English Supposed To Talk..

noelwannabe Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - randomcheesecake you dick you little piece of shit i would beat you up any time. noel speaks the truth johhny marr is in the top 5 greatest guitarists ever

thesmithsman Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - hes had a considerable amount of influence on music, particular manchester music which is possibly the best in the country. (digitised)

digitised Says:

Nov 24, 2008 - My point was specifically aimed at his guitar ability, songwriting is a seperate issue altogether. Marr is not an exceptional player, he has no lead skills and his rythym playing is meticulous and interesing at best. Like i said just because you like his music doesnt mean you can start overstating his other achievements and skills, in the world of guitar playing he doesnt raise any eyebrows. Check out some of the names i mentioned and youll see why.

PokerPlum Says:

Nov 25, 2008 - You don't have type some intellectual bullshit, digitised. Of course Marr is not going to be compared to people like Holdsworth. But equally, you can't compare Renoir with Van Gogh - one may have been technically more brilliant but virtuosity is only one section of genius. Creativity is another. Oh, and by the way. You're a pompous prat.

digitised Says:

Nov 25, 2008 - 'intellectual bullshit' - 'pompous prat' Sorry for bringing things into perspective for you. Obviously some people feel inadequate when somebody can type a few lines without resorting to insults and baseless opinion. I thought my replies were fine, i never realised anyone would find them 'too clever' and need to complain about it. However you have agreed with my point, marr isnt a great guitar player but he makes good music. So lets just agree not to call him a legendary guitarist ok

sicktodeathdisco Says:

Nov 27, 2008 - your right andi agree,even noel isnt that clever,seriously,its all basic stuff he plays..but thats the point,one noel makes himself,'even he(marr)doesnt know what hes playing'its not just about the guitar,it helps!(stone roses secon coming)but its not the most important thing!

skeletonkey6 Says:

Nov 28, 2008 - what song did he say he wasn't a big fan of? He kind of mumbled it, so I couldn't hear it.

TheGavnah Says:

Nov 28, 2008 - It's "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" he says. It's great, that track...I dunno what Noel's on about with that.

SXM0 Says:

Nov 29, 2008 - randomcheesecake "noel is in the top 5 greatest guitarists ever" LMAO. you got to be joking. Noel isnt even in the top 500!

HLM125 Says:

Nov 30, 2008 - this is a good interview but in parts he gets one full head of away from being Karl Pilkington

lukeashmoore Says:

Dec 2, 2008 - THANK. YOU.

nickrock23 Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - you sound like someone who's never played guitar. your argument is something like 'steve howe is better than trevor rabin'. even if this is true, steve can't play LIKE trevor and vice versa. the argument is just retarded, no matter what side you take. holdsworth, eric johnson, whoever, i don't care how good he is, you give him a guitar and tell him to accurately recreate marr riffs he will be baffled for hours and most likely NEVER hit every note and that is a fact dude

nickrock23 Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - and for the record, those guys you mentioned, as well as trevor and steve and everyone else, there are cats playing in restaurants with more technical skills. don't be so pompous unless you can back it up with basic knowledge of the instrument and musicianship. if you wanna throw songwriting out of the equation, in the grand scheme of things, our guitar heroes might as well be working at the snack bar cause there are 11 yr old bucktooth cockeyed girls in julliard who play better than holdsworth

ghostscantkill Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - I like Noel and Liam Gallagher.I respect Noel for him admitting that someone else is better than him.

AlbinoScout Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - Kurt Cobain was a legendary guitarist and he wasn't very good at all. You're making too much of a connection between guitarist and legendary. You can be legendary without being the best at what you do technically. If you're a guitar player and write songs that influence people so much that 20 years later, bands are coming out trying to sound like you, you're legendary. And Marr was a guitarist. So he's a legendary guitarist. Pretty simple. This whole post punk revival is a Smiths tribute.

digitised Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - Actually ive played guitar for nearly 11 years, and my argument is not about comparing apples and oranges. I said just because marr makes good music does not make him a great guitar player. Likewise you could not say he was a great mathematician because of his songs and his GCSE maths grade B. Hence you cannot exaggerate unrelated skills. His guitar playing is terribly basic, anyone who has played seriously for 3+ years would have no problem nailing his riffs.

it412 Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - i hate this man

digitised Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - There are certainly skilled people who are not famous, just stuck playing small crowds but seriously have you ever even heard shawn lane? The guy was practically unkown outside of a small home community and the so called elite guitarists who would have parties to watch his bootleg videos. He was exceptional and has revealed more techniques and ideas which are now widely studied by top players than anyone else of the last 30 years. If you know of other players better, please tell me.

digitised Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - You see you are repeating the same fallacy. Kurt cobain made very successful music and he happened to play his music on a guitar. He also did some wrestling at school... Does that mean he was a legendary wrestler? Of course not! You judge these things individually on merit. Kurt knew basic chords, he could never compete with any skilled player in any style of his choice. Any able person could play as good as kurt within 1 year of learning, and that is a fact.

nickrock23 Says:

Dec 3, 2008 - i don't disagree with you on kurt, but you cannot separate songwriting ability from technical ability. you act like all these dudes are gods, i am telling you there are tens of thousands of kids all over the world in good music schools that can easily outplay any famous guitarist you or i could think of. thats why i am saying u cannot separate, if you did, then the guys we admire on technical ability alone goes out the window. we're talking about pop/rock/fusion players here, not mozart

pegbey Says:

Dec 5, 2008 - There's probably thousands of painters who can reproduce the Mona Lisa more accurately than Picasso could it doesn't make them greater painters. So why distinguish great guitarists from great artists who play the guitar? Beyond a certain level of technical competence, surely a great guitarist is someone who can use their instrument to express something beautiful/original/moving. Johnny 'weird c**t' Marr certainly fits that description better than most of the top technicians (Satriani, etc.)!