WTC 7: The Smoking Gun of 9/11

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - You do realize that my response was for Joefreiheit, and not you?

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - "If Bush could capture or kill Bin Laden, he would." Why? You say that such an act would bring Bush acclaim. Yet his reputation is already dirt even in his own country. And as you say, since it wouldn't eliminate terrorism, what does OBL provide? Noteriaty. The name, the image, inspire fear and hatred. Those things enable ever increasing "protective measures" such as his ability to take control over all public and private organizations without even consulting Congress.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - The ability to round up anyone, even US citizens, and "detain" them for an indefinite period, or render them into the custody of other nations, without a warrant, due process, or even a criminal charge. Further more, you're operating off the base assumption that the President is not part of a conspiracy; though at least his Sec. of Treasury and key investors and congressmen have apparently pulled off a conspiracy to rob the American people blind.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - You're also leaving out the possibility that while OBL had/has ties to the CIA, he may be currently out of their otherwise rather disturbing reach. I'm not at all in favor of removing security. I think that the added "security," and both PATRIOT acts, should be repealed. Terrorism does exist and has existed; and with a few exceptions, our previous security has been enough to preserve peace on our own soil, as it would have concerning 9-11, if there were not a huge number of "mistakes" made.

PoetryHound Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - But Bush doesn't need to go after more power any more. He's leaving office in January. Capturing or killing Bid Laden would be good for his approval ratings, something all politicians care about. There's no reasonable motivation for Bush to allow Bin Laden to remain at large.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - That's assuming he still has that option. OBL may have disconnected with the CIA, or people that the President is working with are promising him more power to leave him in play. Also, if President Bush cared about approval ratings, he'd have done something about it BEFORE getting to 28% Finally, retiring from Office in a couple months, has never, ever, been the time when politicians have cared about approval ratings. If campaigning, sure, but not when simply leaving.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - Where's the photo? I'd like to see it.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - You've also merely repeated your previous argument, which is based on an assumption, based on an assumed generalization. That being that all politicians care about approval ragings, and that the current President is concerned with that above power, influence, or whatever conspiracy he may be part of. I'm sure it's true that politicians care about approval ratings, but mostly in so much as it gives them power. If it can be taken by force of arms, and through fear, why bother with compromise?

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randypagan Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - While planes did not hit tower 7,and while fire cannot bring down a steel building. there is one thing that will, DROPPING A 110 STORY BUILDING ON IT!!! but there is something that can bring down a building even faster that doing that, ITS DROPPING ANOTHER 110 STORY BUILDING ON IT 20 MINUTES LATER!! My cousin is a fire investigator that was there on & after 9/11 u can't demo a 50 or 110 story building withtout leaving SHITLOADS of explosive casings EVERYWHERE for every trained fireman to find

PoetryHound Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - Politicians, particularly presidents, absolutely do care about their public approval at all times. Near the end, it affects their legacy. There is no reasonable explanation for why Bush would not want to capture or kill Bin Laden, who had a connection to the CIA 20 years ago when the US was allied with the Mujahadeen. Once Bin Laden turned his attention to the presence of Western powers, particularly the US, in the Middle east, the US and CIA were no longer allies with him. Obviously.

PoetryHound Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - "If President Bush cared about approval ratings, he'd have done something about it BEFORE getting to 28%" I don't think he anticipated how unpopular the Iraq War would become. And he didn't anticipate the financial crisis. There is no indication or evidence that Bush would not like to capture or kill Bin Laden.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - "No reasonable explanation" only if you dismiss what others say out of hand. I've provided several reasonable motives, whether they are the case or not, I wouldn't know, I don't have the knowledge of the inner workings of the President's mind as you seem to. As I said earlier it is entirely possible that, they may capture/kill him before Bush leaves office. Legacies are something for history and he's confident he'll be spoken of well there, regardless of current opinion.

tsenzei Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - "There is no indication" Other than their staggering failure to do so both before and after 9-11. Unless you listen to media outside the US, or to some of our commanding officers which are sure he's dead already, in which case it'd be a failure to report that. Maybe he didn't think about how unpopular the Iraq War would be, but he and his administration lied about Iraq's capability to harm nations other than itself in order to scare congress into giving him power for a "pre-emptive" strike...

PoetryHound Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - Capturing or killing Bid Laden has been a goal of George Bush. If Bid Laden were already dead, it would be trumpeted by Bush, by conservatives, by all media. If he were caught or killed, same thing. And it would be a feather in George Bush's cap. You've given no reasonable reason why Bin Laden's death, if proven, wouldn't be worldwide news & wouldn't be something Bush would crow about.

PoetryHound Says:

Nov 8, 2008 - "Legacies are something for history and he's confident he'll be spoken of well there" I have no clue if he's confident. He'd be more confident if Bid Laden were captured or killed before he left office. Not getting Bid Laden is a stain on his legacy.

undeadnow Says:

Nov 9, 2008 - Does a building or 2 or then 3 ever just fall on itself weird........I dont know what happened but weird

hawtmama84 Says:

Nov 11, 2008 - You would learn alot by watching 911 Truth Rising. I'm glad i watched it!

hawtmama84 Says:

Nov 11, 2008 - And didnt Barry Jennings die recently? I think i heard that on the Alex Jones show! Wow

Gold0ilDrugs Says:

Nov 11, 2008 - Most everybody in the world knows that 9/11 was a demolition job. These schills on youtube are defending the government religiously.

Joefreiheit Says:

Nov 13, 2008 - Bush never tried to get Bin Laden, He went to Iraq instead and started a war based on lies. Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11. If I met Bin Laden I would buy him a soda and tell him what a beautiful niece he has in Los Angeles. If I met Bush or Cheney I would give them a hot coffee in the face. Bin Laden is another phantom monster that the government has created for us to fear. Our enemies our domestic not foreign. Wake up people.

questionstreet Says:

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ponic420h Says:

Nov 17, 2008 - I can't beleive it said on the same day that Polls indicate Bush is responsible.. How did people know already??????? And I dont beleive that guy talking about the EMS and FIreman being on the "inside" with the job. Thats just crapp, you would need too much money, I know tons of firemen and police officers they wouldnt have enough to gain. I do beleive it was an inside job, kept secret by fewer people than we think. It only took a handfull of people to confuse everyone.

AiresQX4 Says:

Nov 20, 2008 - You mentioned needing too much money. Just wondering if you knew that Rumsfeld came out on 9-10-01' and said the Pentagon was missing 2.3 TRILLION dollars?

hartistry1957 Says:

Nov 20, 2008 - Conspiracy theorists whack off too much. Get a partner. Get a hug, a blow job, a effin CLUE. WHY BOTHER?, are you gonna change the world? NO. Are you gonna make any difference in your life? NO. Alright then, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!